As for Jazz, there's an awful lot of variations. And of course, even if no ones heard the classical shred before, it's either right or wrong. Playing classical music is extremely hard. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. As both a classical and jazz pianist, I have often pondered whether, in fact, the prescribed nature of many classical pieces restricts the musical outcome; and that with jazz, in terms of a jazz standard tune, for example, the options are so wide the outcome will necessarily be more imaginative. I have no idea about jazz, but I feel my eyelids drooping just thinking about it, and most of the self proclaimed jazz musicians I have met (ie. Definitely DO NOT bring them into a classical setting unless you're playing something like this, in which case you can kinda do whatever you want. Which is harder: Classical Mechanics or Quantum Mechanics? View Profile Just this weekend I played a Mahler Symphony, a Strauss tone poem, and a two sets of jazz duo with a guitarist. The knowledge of theory such as inversions, substitutions, having to know a million chords, scales, modes, etc...just seems overwhelming, not to mention the technique required to pull it off. I still really respect and enjoy jazz. Posted by 3 years ago. Wynton Marsalis too is known as a performer of classical music, just to make the first examples that I can think of. Hang out at a high end stereo shop (not talking mass market crap... high end... $3,000+ speakers) and you'll find a large chunk of them listen to jazz and classical and relatively few play. For beginners, learning to play acoustic guitar is a bit harder than learning to play classical guitar (though it’s not that hard really). It has an adjustable truss rod and a lightly radius’d fingerboard and a narrower neck (about 1/8” thinner across the nut than your typical 2” wide classical guitar), but its voice is classical with an open midrange. Classical Vs Flamenco Guitar. Musically, I say the edge goes to jazz. Sight reading includes being completely fluent in reading rhythm as well as melody. They both take a remarkable level of dedication to reach the master level. OK, it’s hard to narrow these down to just one - but Berio’s experimental Sequenzas were actually designed to push the boundaries of what might be possible with any given instrument. Classical requires the ability to sight read, while jazz requires the ability to creatively process musical ideas, to understand, instead of simply translating from page. I don't want to hear a full set of any one style. For all saxophones, avoid “gimmick” mouthpieces. it just blows my mind.   You cannot paste images directly. Would you agree jazz is harder than classical? That's the home turf. Some times he misses the boat. While learning to play each technically and learn to arrange is surely challenging, I would tend to think improv is that extra "wrinkle". I could mention even persons I know personally who have started as classical musicians and then they have made a career playing jazz. If you're tired of playing classical music on the sax or if you want to build your skills, learning to play jazz saxophone is a great next step.   Your link has been automatically embedded. Classical pianists base a lot of their strength in the piano from technique where Jazz pianists rely much more on their rhythmic understanding and scales/chord forms and progressions. Very very hard to know which is 'better.' 4 Answers. The answer is most likely "it's impossible to say". Except that there's also a lot of creativity in that seemingly perfect interpretation. However, the classical pianists performed better than the jazz group when it came to following unusual fingering. But either can be achieved for any type of person if you meaningfully practice for an hour a day and dedicate yourself to learning properly. But in another way it is easier because I am not trying to take it to the level I am trying to take my classical playing to. Or maybe it's because I've spent a lot more time playing classical and jazz is still kinda scary territory for me, outside of basic chord progressions. Learning complex classical and jazz riffs will take much dedication and practice to master and proper finger technique will dictate how well one can play for both genres. But, just because you are proficient in one style doesn't mean you can play another "easier" style well. I find the classical structure much easier to follow and therefore easier to learn, whereas jazz is more fluid and incorporates faster phrases. I was a lazy bastard and I managed it, and it wasn't particularly in my genes or anything like that. 0 0. But then to counter my own argument...to take a previously written classical piece and give it your own sound..well that's pretty amazing too. Both forms of music will withstand time equally as well 5. Also, classical music is known to have a wide dynamic range and will often speed up and slow down at different movements. Mind you, that was in Cambridge - a town full of arrogant and socially crippled wankers. If you have a bluesy way of playing like I do it came much easier.. Wouldn't even know where to start with Classical:confused: But it probably isn't rocket science to become 'proficient' as a classical player. Of course, performing something like a Liszt concerto accurately takes many years of practice, but Lizst has already done a good chunk of the work by writing the notes. One style is harder to play over another style depending on each person's way of learning it. For jazz, the Otto Link metal 7*, the Vandoren V16 hard rubber T7, and the Jody Jazz HR 7* will all work beautifully. Best jazz guitarists are those who have discovered how to make the guitar work for them, not against them. These choices not only include a multitude of artists, but also a wide diversity of music categories. Asked by Angus Mraz.   Your previous content has been restored. Creativity is big with me and it's an aspect of classical that is missing in my opinion. The overall dynamic of jazz is much louder than that of classical music, at least at the chamber music level. Jazz is more difficult generally... of the two videos mookid posted, the bach one was far easier to play. Try the soprano one for size: Conlon Nancarrow - Studies for Player Piano Imagine writing a piano piece so insanely tricky that you know a human wouldn’t be able to handle it. On the other hand, jazz guitar is a whole new level of complexity. share. A lot of classical musicians, when they try to play jazz, think you have to "swing" on every single note. Community Answer. That said, despite all of that, I still think that the level of dedication and technique and knowledge required to play yngwie-style stuff is much greater than that required to play blues. I once had a dinner with two jazz musicians, who made out that you couldn't appreciate art without having a deep background knowledge of the artist and a 'training' in art history etc. But whereas I could paint and draw, they didn't have a {censored}ing clue. read more. Is there any Jazz as hard as top classical pieces? Play some Rock or Blues instead - you'll stop worrying about what's harder to play and become listenable at the same time. Clear editor. Jazz is rhythmic music and develops rhythmic devices a lot more than classical. They are different, but with enough practice a decent guitar player can play classical. The exaggerated vibrato is tricky, but not as tricky as the inability to throw notes away, which is a key element of pop and jazz – singing through all the notes kills the swing. They are different, but with enough practice a decent guitar player can play classical. They are designed for large tip openings and chambers to open up the sound, like what is found on my 7* link. You have to be the master of your trade, fully confident in your skills and versed in theory if you want to be a classical guitarist. Julian Bream's playing and interpretation just blow my mind, and I'd rather listen to him than just about anyone on any style of guitar. How else can you explain why different people can play the same piece and they can be so emotionally different. I think anyone could do it, with the right training and background. Close. Is metal more complex than jazz and classical music? [Halford]I am the THREAD KILL-LER! 0 0 1. Listening to classical music, as so many introduction courses tell us, requires a basic understanding of form and sub-genre. In my opinion, neither of them is harder than the other although many classical riffs may be a bit more complex as jazz melodies are often created by running scales. Classical music gives you everything, but jazz is all about interpretation. But inside they feel all smug and pleased. I can understand the "it's impossible to say/completely different disciplines" view. It is responsive. The short answer is no. A jazz pianist has a difficult time to find their voice because of all of these creative parts of jazz. Classical music mostly features in pop music forming background music for movies, television program, and advertisement. Is jazz considered contemporary classical music? Picking for jazz can be introduced in other styles, but there's really nowhere other than classical to pick up that kind of fingerpicking technique. I think it was all Vai for that part. If so, which ones? 3. Jazz has to potential to be so much harder than classical, simply because of the degree of music theory involved you have to think and apply, especially when improvisation is involved. Modern music uses much smaller forms than classical music, usually lasting a few minutes. A classical pianist can generally transfer over to jazz easier than a jazz pianist to classical. Classical requires the ability to sight read, while jazz requires the ability to creatively process musical ideas, to understand, instead of simply translating from page. I play a very wide range of genres of instruments, from metal guitar in a jam session, jazz guitar, alto sax, latin piano, rock, classical, etc... so I have experience with a lot of things. They're very bright and buzzy. I think this is what blows it for Yngwie. EVH for Eruption and that classical influenced arpeggio sort of chops near the end of Cross Roads where Jack Butler (Steve Vai) loses to The Karate Kid. read more I have and it ain't pretty.   Pasted as rich text. Everytime he left the room, me (guitar) and the drummer and bassist would break into Metallica or something totally NON-Jazz.. Part 2 - The difference between classical and jazz music - Pianist Christopher Brent gives a demonstration! Classical, guys like Segovia, etc. After that they wouldn't say hello to me when I passed them in the street. Classical requires the ability to sight read, while jazz requires the ability to creatively process musical ideas, to understand, instead of simply translating from page. Classical players will look down their nose at you, but pat you on the back as you struggle through your grade 4 piece, and pretend you are doing well, when in fact they are thinking 'this person hasn't got it and he never will'. Jazz also has a much larger scope for improvisation which eludes a lot of classical pianists. save. Jazz music is what happens when skilled musicians decide that they need a challenge. Answer. I think you could probably get to be proficient on either a guitar or piano within a couple of years if you practiced reasonably regularly. They are fairly similar and it’s hard to spot the difference for a complete novice. read more, Picking for jazz can be introduced in other styles, but there's really nowhere other than classical to pick up that kind of fingerpicking technique. Archived. Jazz is a distinctively American form of music, and its history occupies a much smaller span of time. Creativity with classical guitar is in the interpretation. I've used the ZZs in jazz ensemble. In general, I would say it's much harder to improvise a jazz solo than to perform an already-written classical work. The brass section would just sit there and be pissed that they picked a ghay instrument to play.. Like I said, it was cool. Someone else may have found it harder. With my classical playing, I am constantly trying to speak while interpreting what is already written. Is it still easy? × By Studies based on scales / arpeggios rather than scales / arpeggios themselves. Which is more technical: Jazz or classical? This focus on chords is the main area where contemporary piano technique differs from classical piano. History of Jazz Music. Which style do you think is more difficult to master, and why? I started classical piano when I was 6 and got to grade 7. I've seen that myself when comparing blues to neo-classical shred. I'm leaning towards jazz, especially when I see something like this. I was comparing arranging a classical song to improving Jazz, I listen to classical and jazz (mostly non-guitar, but still some) and I don't play either. So in reply I drew a portrait of one of them, which they pretended not to like (probably because it looked like the subject). Both are very easy to make sounds on, compared with a steel-strung acoustic guitar. When you first start learning about guitars, it not uncommon to mistake an acoustic guitar for a classical one. I can appreciate Yngwie for his efforts. So, lets say, it was reletively easy for you..... O.K. It gets torturous by the end of one of his sets. Some people may be more easily able to learn one style over another style. The jazz guy might be able to cover his improvizational meanderings. Scott what's his name. In jazz guitar is trying to edge in on other instruments. Anything you could point out as being hard, I could counter with a scenario that would make it even harder.